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Enterprise Authorization Working Group Meeting Minutes 2008-6-19

Enterprise Authorization Working Group Meeting Minutes 2008-6-19

 Attendees

  • John R - Engineering
  • Neil M - AdCom
  • Beth H - Communications
  • Jim K - Communications
  • Scott B - Registrar

Discussion

  • The group helped discuss the problem and current situation regarding authorization within our applications
    • We discussed shadow data, code duplication/maintainability, decentralization, etc.
    • Scott mentioned that he is suffering from the exact same problems and is inline with out goals
    • Discussed proposed solutions
      • Signet+Grouper
      • Vendor: Sun/Novell
  • Departmental support was discussed
    • John mentioned he might have issues with the new Dean
    • Scott mentioned that his director supports anything that Scott supports
  • Neil shared his knowledge of UCLA's plan
    • They have funding for four employees
    • However, they are focusing on the UI specifically.  This only marginally benefits our cause
    • UCLA plans on using Grouper itself to manage access control
      • John pointed out reasons why this would not work at UCI
        • The number of necessary groups could quickly balloon out of control
  • We discussed our concerns about Signets maturity rate
    • There was a roadblock in terms of the architecture of the Hooks + Plugins framework
    • There is still a fairly low adoption rate
  • Initial discussions about group definitions began
    • Initially, Communications would only need around 6 groups for 25 users.  This number would grow fairly slowly for quite sometime and then quickly grow in a very short period of time
    • The A&BS groups could quickly create a few thousand groups
      • For example: Should there be a group for each title code?  Home Dept Code?  etc.
      • The FS, Payroll, and Home Department hierarchies are a must
    • John mentioned that he could use the academic groups (provided by the registrar) to solve many of his problems, but certainly not all without using signet as well.

Action Items

  • All are to look over the group definitions and augment, redefine, or suggest exclusion of the provided groups
  • Dana to setup vendor demo meetings with Novell and Sun
  • Neil work with Dana and/or Steve to try to get Sun Access Manager up and running?
  • Scott to get in touch with his EEE contacts